From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: f43e6,3a06c3a3721845ae X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a06c3a3721845ae X-Google-Thread: 10f5bc,3a06c3a3721845ae X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,3a06c3a3721845ae X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,gid103376,gid10f5bc,gid1108a1,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ed Berard Newsgroups: comp.software-eng, comp.lang.ada, comp.software.testing, comp.object Subject: Re: Am I "Overqualified"? Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:14:18 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <0mIoj.522$az7.93@newsfe07.lga> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.33.50.37 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1201889659 18022 127.0.0.1 (1 Feb 2008 18:14:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 18:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=67.33.50.37; posting-account=9-OU0QoAAADwWgyhxS0gFZjIcCMbyN-Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.software-eng:9131 comp.lang.ada:19681 comp.software.testing:7522 comp.object:21955 Date: 2008-02-01T10:14:18-08:00 List-Id: Hi xpyttl: On Feb 1, 11:08 am, "xpyttl" wrote: > I do kind of see a disconnect reviewing your resume. > > You have product/process architecture experience. This immediately says to > anyone reading, "not a programmer". I assume that you equate "programmer" with "coder." > The company that is going to hire a process architect is going to be a large one. I have worked as a software architecht with companies with as few as 6 software people, and as large as 2,500 software people > For that large company, they are likely to want more than a lone individual. Large companies are likely to have groups of people working on various aspects of software architecture, software process architecture, and software product line architecture. There is, as you might expect, a good deal of cross- group activities among the architecture groups involving, e.g. standardies, software quality assurance, software reusability, various forms of governance, testing, and configuration management. > Chances are they will want a consulting firm that can deliver a variable > supply as the needs change. I have a fair amount of experience in this arena. A common scenario requires that a lone (or small number of) consultant works with the company hashing out many of the architectural issues. The large company, with "preliminary sketches" in hand, and with the assistance of the consultant(s), hires, trains, and integrates the in-house architects. Depending on the needs and desires of the large company, they may hire their own architects, ask the consulting (external) architect to furnish architects on an as needed basis, or a combination of these approaches. Warning: There are many pseudo-architects out there, e.g.: * Far too many people thing that "architecture:" is just another name for "design." For that matter, I have encoountered some people who think that anyone who has anything to do with the creation or enhancement of software is an "architect" * "Product line" is another frequently-corrupted term. For example, people sometimes take it to mean "a collection of any software products we sell, regardless of how unrelated the products might be to each other * The words "architect" and "architecture" are very-frequently mis- applied. Watch out, for example, for people with job titles such as "solution architect." > Besides that, a lot of larger companies are wrapped up in, or getting > wrapped up in, Lean and Six Sigma processes. Lean and Six Sigma are seldom found in the same place, in the places I visit. Depending on the flavor of "Lean" you may be using, many of the concepts behind "architecture" and "Six Sigma" are viewed as "unnecessary overhead." > This is especially true if they understand the importance of process and > might be inclined to hire an in-house process architect. This is a frequent outcome in my universe. You might say that my job is done when my clients can do what I was doiing for them. I have no desire to make my clients unnecessarily dependent upon me. > I see that as missing from your experience. -- Ed