From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1083339867 26346 134.91.1.34 (30 Apr 2004 15:44:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:44:27 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/800)) Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:141 Date: 2004-04-30T15:44:27+00:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: : On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:47:13 +0400 (MSD), "Alexander E. Kopilovich" : wrote: : :>Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: :> :>But I'd like to note here that traditionally (until relatively recently) :>science was about acquiring stable knowledge and understanding, and not about :>redoing the world. : : That's not science yet. A true science begins when it gives birth to : engineering. Work in the small, i.e. not oriented towards "the world", is complex and full of imponderabilities. Science cannot even say exactly how a windshield is affecting a car's route. Science, engineering, all we can say is that it sometimes works! Humans give birth, not science and the wombs of ideas (including engineering ideas) are certainly subject to factors other than scientific ones, if known factors at all. And please no engineered history. Please let me die before this is attempted again. And I don't take it for granted that medicine will be more successful as soon as it is praticed by body engineers. Georg