From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,e0a59694a441eb7b X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,e0a59694a441eb7b X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,e0a59694a441eb7b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,e0a59694a441eb7b X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-22 00:33:47 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: Calum Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object Subject: Re: OOP Language for OS Development Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:34:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: <95db0572.0404142153.431fd058@posting.google.com> <566e2bfb.0404181753.2844342f@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.18.27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news5.svr.pol.co.uk 1082619227 2496 217.134.18.27 (22 Apr 2004 07:33:47 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Apr 2004 07:33:47 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.c++:31038 comp.lang.ada:7400 comp.lang.eiffel:709 comp.object:10976 Date: 2004-04-22T07:33:47+00:00 List-Id: Philippe Ribet wrote: > EventHelix.com wrote: > >> At this point C++ would seem to be the best choice. I don't think any >> other >> language would match C++ in performance and power. >> > > Do you at least ever heard of Eiffel? I would say that C++ is far from > matching Eiffel power. In terms of "raw power", both languages are Turing powerful (if we ignore the "can a finite computer be Turing complete" pedentry). So power in what sense? What's really nice and neat to do in Eiffel that is difficult in C++? Give some source code, or at the very least a link to an article. Can for example Eiffel implement its own allocators, or is its type system itself Turing complete (C++ templates)? > What about performance? If only you have made a single benchmark... > > Such assessment is just a flame war start. > > Nice day to everybody, >