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From: Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
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Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping
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Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com> wrote:
 
: There are obviously more but the important thing is that these concerns 
: are *REAL* and *VALID* - if not *TECHNICAL*. So if Ada doesn't want to 
: just slowly go down the toilet, it ought to look to addressing the 
: concerns of that manager voicing those objections.

So, a technical thing like a language should be addressing issues that are
also related to
- the kind of project
- prejudice
- following the herd
- assumptions (you have alluded to many in your list, I think)
   
Is there any convincing evidence of a correlation of market success and
the concerns you named?
For example, I can imagine long term projects where
programmer competence is more important than knowledge of language X.
(Because they can learn it.  After all, Java projects have been started
when there were no experienced Java programmers, or development environments,
or data base bindings, or .... you name it. And job ads frequently
feature "similar object oriented technology" etc..)

: Telling him he's 
: wrong and stupid is only going to get you dismissed as a kook because he 
: *knows* his concerns are legetimate and important.
  ^^^^^^^
*thinks*. Who is suggesting to tell a manager that he is stupid?