From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-06 06:25:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed.stueberl.de!eusc.inter.net!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 13:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org> <54759e7e.0402071124.322ea376@posting.google.com> <406EB6D2.8030801@noplace.com> <87d66pyw1g.fsf@insalien.org> <406EEC35.7040109@noplace.com> <874qs0zvy1.fsf@insalien.org> <40714C98.90601@noplace.com> <1073gv22t969q5a@corp.supernews.com> <40729B9D.30906@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1081257906 4871 134.91.1.34 (6 Apr 2004 13:25:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 13:25:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/800)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6770 Date: 2004-04-06T13:25:06+00:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: : these guys have run the numbers and come : to the conclusion that their dollars are better spent using compilers & : tools that are stamped out by the bajillions and sold/used all over the : planet. I think that is a bit optimistic. Sure some managers try to reason before a decision, but this decision usually has lots of other factors driving it than just an alledged cost & availability calculation? Many decisions look like they are driven by a "critical revenue" factor ("I can get by with xyz until next year..."), not by the "optimizing" process that is still hypothesized in some economy classes. Therefore, decisions need not involve engineering principles or thinking of long term effects. With all its consequences... : If Ada were smart, the vendors would get together, figure out what the : best new market would be, agree to go address it, find out what that : market wants and then vigorously go and build for that market. I just noted that Aonix have released new JNI binding software for ObjectAda. If you think of cell phones, isn't there a JVM inside some of them?