From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-06 01:17:36 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-145-254-045-067.arcor-ip.NET!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:17:20 +0200 Organization: At home Message-ID: References: <1073gv22t969q5a@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-145-254-045-067.arcor-ip.net (145.254.45.67) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1081239454 90207651 I 145.254.45.67 ([77047]) User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6761 Date: 2004-04-06T10:17:20+02:00 List-Id: Alexander E. Kopilovich wrote: > Randy Brukardt wrote: > >>The reason that Java got successful (like the reason that *anything* or >>*anyone* gets successful) was luck. Sun got what had been a widely ignored >>language/system tied to a skyrocket (the internet) by putting applet >>support into Netscape. That got the foot in the door where heavy promotion >>could make an effect. >> >>Remember, it's a combination of luck and marketing that makes anyone or >>anything successful. Merit has very little to do with it - the only >>requirement being that the product fufill some (but not necessarily all) >>of its promises. > > In the case of Java the most significant reason for that skyrocketed > success was (I think) not just luck and aggressive marketing, but very > high level of professional traitorousness among CS teachers in American > universities. In late 90th they massively adopted Java for their courses > despite obvious defects of the language (the most beautiful example is > absence of enumerations in Java - before appearance of Java those academic > people always claimed that enumerations are very important and necessary, > but no one them said a word about their absence in Java - they were too > busy in praising Java to notice such a tiny detail). But why they adopted Java? It was the same combination of luck and marketing Randy Brukardt wrote about. That time many of them had Sun worstations avaiable. Nobody ever liked Microsoft. End of story. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de