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From: Jere <jhb.chat@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Full view of a private partial view cannot be a subtype
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 04:54:44 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2017-12-06T04:54:44-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3783cb2-552f-484d-9036-ea7bcb199b9a@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p06p76$rd$1@dont-email.me>

On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 1:40:40 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
> 
> But your argument is about ease of writing, with isn't going to convince anyone 
> who likes Ada. Ada explicitly states in the ARM Introduction that it's for code 
> that's easy to read, not easy to write. The fact that you type more with 
> composition is not an argument against it.
No, I wasn't making an argument vs ease of writing.  I was saying that, 
for me, there are cases where composition is harder to read. 

> 
> > I respect yall's view on this, but in either case it is still a subjective
> > matter.  There are a variety of people out there who all view things very
> > differently.
> 
> I disagree. There are a set of S/W-engineering principles that help guide the 
> S/W engineer to create S/W that is simple, correct, and easy to read. Every 
> real-world use of type extension that I've seen has violated the principle of 
> locality--that's inherent in the nature of type extension. Thus it is 
> objectively more complex and harder to read than S/W that violates none of the 
> principles.
> 
I don't think we will ever agree on this topic, because, having grown up as 
someone with trouble reading, I had to find alternate methods to parse 
through what I saw.  It's easy to get overwhelmed when there is so much
to read/go through.  What's readable to you isn't necessarily readable to me.

Hopefully we can just agree to disagree.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-06 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-03  2:14 Full view of a private partial view cannot be a subtype Jere
2017-12-03 12:01 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-03 13:33   ` Jere
2017-12-03 14:34     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-03 17:44       ` Robert Eachus
2017-12-03 18:50         ` Simon Wright
2017-12-03 22:10           ` Robert Eachus
2017-12-03 19:03         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-03 22:23       ` Jere
2017-12-04  8:25         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-04 18:04         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-04 20:41           ` Jere
2017-12-04 21:48             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05  8:20               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-05 18:16                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 20:39                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-05 21:38                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 12:35               ` Jere
2017-12-05 18:40                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-06 12:54                   ` Jere [this message]
2017-12-06 18:03                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 20:22                 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 15:27               ` Shark8
2017-12-05 18:50                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 20:59                 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 22:43                   ` Shark8
2017-12-07  0:52                     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 20:16               ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 21:29                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-07  0:04                   ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-04 20:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 12:56   ` Jere
2017-12-05 20:12     ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-17 15:26       ` Jere
2017-12-17 15:39         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-18 22:47           ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-19  1:22             ` Jere
2017-12-19 23:16               ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-19  1:01           ` Jere
2017-12-19  9:08             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-19 13:08               ` Jere
2017-12-19 13:27                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-19 19:10             ` Stephen Leake
2017-12-18 20:45 ` Stephen Leake
2017-12-18 22:54   ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-19  1:08   ` Jere
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