From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b78c363353551702 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.228.227 with SMTP id sl3mr8297647pbc.5.1341457111946; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 19:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Path: l9ni10938pbj.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Shark8 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: about the new Ada 2012 pre/post conditions Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 19:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <1oih2rok18dmt.avbwrres5k12.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe59ea0$0$9502$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1mkp7fzlk1b0y.1ueinfjn48fcy$.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe72b6b$0$9504$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1bbvp3ghpjb5s.1go1s1qvcmagh$.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe76fad$0$9507$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1jt8vhzxfrv2i.eohce4d3rwx1$.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe83aaa$0$6624$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1pkfv0tiod3rn$.onx6dmaa3if9$.dlg@40tude.net> <1i1mp8xs3vtl2.1oc4m66qtfgzq.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe9bde5$0$6566$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1otknesgpcisl$.112pd12on3vsb$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.20.190.126 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1341457111 6926 127.0.0.1 (5 Jul 2012 02:58:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 02:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de In-Reply-To: <1otknesgpcisl$.112pd12on3vsb$.dlg@40tude.net> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.20.190.126; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC User-Agent: G2/1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-07-04T19:58:31-07:00 List-Id: On Saturday, June 30, 2012 3:26:12 AM UTC-5, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:03:27 -0700 (PDT), Shark8 wrote: >> I'm really confused on why you seem to think the Pre- and Post-condition= s >> are bad things.=20 >=20 > That is because you didn't follow the discussion. Pre- and post-condition= s > are great things, but only when done correctly. Ah, now you're equating 'following' with both 'understanding' and 'remember= ing the nuances' -- I don't agree with that definition, precisely because i= t excludes the request for clarification so one might understand it. Also, I don't know where you got the idea that pre- and post-conditions mus= t not implement anything. If that was the case then, strictly speaking Java= Doc's pre and postcondition annotating comments are superior to Ada's pre a= nd post condition because they don't implement anything and are, in fact, j= ust comments having no actual impact on the program text.