From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 5b1e799cdb,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid5b1e799cdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!p10g2000prm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: fft1976 Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <2009a75f-63e7-485e-9d9f-955e456578ed@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <0bdf3c02-0565-40e2-95cc-c7f5eb546313@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <7xmy6mzy0q.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.136.248.82 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248925260 2030 127.0.0.1 (30 Jul 2009 03:41:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p10g2000prm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=71.136.248.82; posting-account=XD7nMAkAAAAUcvFxxCbDAfgYkTA2oJDz User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042513 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) Firefox/3.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.scheme:6190 comp.lang.ada:7434 comp.lang.functional:2540 comp.lang.c++:48595 comp.programming:12144 Date: 2009-07-29T20:40:59-07:00 List-Id: On Jul 29, 7:48=C2=A0pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > fft1976 writes: > > > =C2=A0 Where'd you get that idea? > >http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=3Dall=E2=8C=A9= =3Dgna... > > Given that Ada is such a verbose language, the generally smaller > source sizes of the Ada programs suggests that they weren't optimized > very carefully. =C2=A0I know that some C, Java, and functional language > users treat the shootouts fairly competitively and tune their code > carefully, but I don't know if the Ada users are the same way. =C2=A0Ada > is unfortunately kind of a niche language these days. This is a hypotheses you are entertaining, right? Or did you notice anything "suboptimal" in the Ada code?