From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, FREEMAIL_REPLY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.42.247.14 with SMTP id ma14mr22727434icb.3.1417465780298; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 12:29:40 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.100.201 with SMTP id s67mr34664qge.34.1417465780259; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 12:29:40 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!h15no3286300igd.0!news-out.google.com!m4ni576qag.1!nntp.google.com!w8no3927405qac.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:29:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.176.91.16; posting-account=pmkN8QoAAAAtIhXRUfydb0SCISnwaeyg NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.176.91.16 References: <8f7e0b44-14a7-4e39-8910-d8f6e553b904@googlegroups.com> <2a3a193b-9ae3-421e-8017-972b926c5489@googlegroups.com> <216acc31-ae0f-48cd-bccb-2dd93d88791e@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A matter of interest. From: Austin Obyrne Injection-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 20:29:40 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 4770 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1022882091 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:23814 Date: 2014-12-01T12:29:40-08:00 List-Id: On Monday, December 1, 2014 4:25:17 PM UTC, Denis McMahon wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:56:09 -0800, brbarkstrom wrote: >=20 > > Fair enough. However, I think he should use the available Ada versions > > of standard encryption algorithms. Those will save his time and worrie= s > > about security by the user community. While I have a PhD in astronomy > > and had several years of advanced math as an undergraduate, I do not > > have the mathematical qualifications to build a new encryption > > algorithm. Folks who do that kind of work need to have a very deep > > understanding of number theory and related subjects. 'Nuff said. >=20 > Generic +1 >=20 > Dan Boneh at Stanford runs online cryptography courses. The biggest thing= =20 > I learned from his courses was "leave it to the experts, because well=20 > meaning amateurs haven't a hope in hell of getting it right" >=20 > --=20 > Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com Hi Dennis, It is hard to comment on your remarks without seeming to have an axe to gri= nd. There is nothing in it for me to sound off but I must say for whatever = you think its worth - the monumental mistake has been in leaving to these s= elf acclaimed experts - they have had fifty years of trying since the incep= tion of number-theoretic computer driven cryptography in the seventies and = so far nothing. They are so far down the wrong road they do not realise it. The nub of the matter is that our beautiful number system that is so good a= t what it is intended to do is totally unsuited to cryptography because of = the sheer transparency of it that is impossible to hide by any normal linea= r means. Nobody seems to realise this and that alternatives must be found -= going down the road of intractability through complexity is both futile an= d by the way non-mathematical The most fertile areas for research are far away from the traditional numbe= r system but that is as far as those people can think - hands on problem so= lving like finding crypto algorithms is beyond their ken it appears. They are even talking about "principles of cryptography" which cannot exist= until proper cryptography i.e. "Theoretically Unbreakable" algorithms are = demonstrated They are also talking about the mathematics of cryptography w= hich does not exist for the same reason. I can demonstrate my invention of this ultimate class of cryptography and h= ave made it available on my website http://www.adacryptpages.com for all to= see and criticise. The establishment are ignoring all overtures from me t= o submit my stuff and only one of about six has had the decency to answer m= y email - That is the "Imperial College London" - Professor Craster is Hea= d of the Applied Maths department there. The establishment are a dishonest, intransigent lot of bluffers. I think we may be on the cusp of a massive change so scared is everybody to= come out and talk. It is ludicrous to see the list of papers, past, present and future on comp= lexity-theoretic algorithms that have no future being posted on the website= s of many universities and even the IACR (International association for Cry= ptological Research) - I think. =20 No Sir - I do not think much of your suggestions that we leave it to these = people. adacrypt