From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a4656a5edc0dab4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Dmitry A. Kazakov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:55:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <409F69CB.8020604@noplace.com> <40A218DD.9090903@noplace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: http://news.individual.net/abuse.html X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de D2MMyd2+Z+FMcG1jjIh22QOi/fU2Sic3DIsLv3d7DZNe4uZkk= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:522 Date: 2004-05-13T09:55:00+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:30:44 GMT, Marin David Condic wrote: >BTW: I don't think that Ada has much of a chance of gaining huge success >(by which I mean revenue) in trying to target small embedded computers. >It would cost a lot to do and the potential buyers don't buy millions of >compilers. I believe you are wrong here. In the area we are working, each large vendor of an embedded application is surrounded by a swarm of smaller firms to which it outsource software development and testing. Each satellite firm has the complete development tool chain. These tools are very expensive. It is a very lucrative market. [Some tool chain vendors just take GCC, build loader, add a pair windows and sell that for many k$.] >That, and they are enormously disinterested in Ada. True. To get there one has to offer better tools, a better compiler would be not enough. Present tools are very bad, but the problem is that the marked is saturated and closed. People there are conservative and arrogant. It is difficult to get there, even if you have a better product. >Better to >get some other market segment that might be easier to address and let it >spill over into embedded programming. No. It would take too long. I am afraid that Ada is missing the embedded programming market which in the foreseeable future will become no less important than the conventional one. -- Regards, Dmitry Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de