From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-10 16:47:46 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!newshub1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au!news1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au.POSTED!not-for-mail From: raj Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Managers believe that Ada programmers are hard to find Message-ID: References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3B475678.C582735D@worldnet.att.net> <3b478165_3@news3.prserv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:47:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.144.2 X-Complaints-To: abuse@optushome.com.au X-Trace: news1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au 994808865 203.164.144.2 (Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:47:45 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:47:45 EST Organization: @Home Network Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9756 Date: 2001-07-10T23:47:45+00:00 List-Id: >But almost everybody is using Java and almost non\body is using Ada. One result of this is that managers say: " But if we use Ada were are we going to get new programmers" Considering that the turnover in the industry is around 60 % per year this may not be an unreasonable argument. There are plenty of Java , and C++ and Perl programmers. Ada programmers are as rare as lisp prgrammers. In addition, most Ada programmers I have come across are elderly (ie: over 40 ) and we all know that the average manager prefers hiring a programmer in his/her late 20's to early 30's. ( Among other advantages they can be paid less and take less time off for their families ...)