From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fef3ad775ef4b0b7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.ecp.fr!oleane.net!oleane!hunter.axlog.fr!nobody From: Jean-Pierre Rosen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada for 1st year students Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:08:58 +0200 Organization: Adalog Message-ID: References: <60e0c5f0-1e17-4add-b21e-b1ef622d5233@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <01b1f1e3-02eb-4a2a-88a3-5650f114a227@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <48EE710D.7080109@obry.net> <417af75d-56a0-44f3-b214-35c6603235e6@r38g2000prr.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mailhost.axlog.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: s1.news.oleane.net 1224066420 4725 195.25.228.57 (15 Oct 2008 10:27:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@oleane.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:27:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) In-Reply-To: <417af75d-56a0-44f3-b214-35c6603235e6@r38g2000prr.googlegroups.com> Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8119 Date: 2008-10-15T13:08:58+02:00 List-Id: amado.alves@gmail.com a �crit : >>> option, only the IDE... I have reservations aboutGPS, it's too much, >>> and in my experience slow andunreliable, I think I'll give Eclise a >> (Marius) >> GPSslow andunreliable... Well I'm using it all days... > (Pascal) > > I was just painfully reminded of what I really dislike about GPS and > these sort of IDEs in general. You cannot build a program! You have to > create a "project", then configure here, configure there. Total BS. It > completely ruined my class yesterday, about building and executing > Hello world! I will ditch GPS and call gnatmake upon Ada directly. > It's easier to learn and control and use. Unfortunately we loose the > baby (the editor) with the bath water (the "IDE"). I'll probably use > AdaGIDE. Thanks. Two things about GPS: 1) Make sure you use a recent version. Yes, first versions were buggy, but this has changed. 2) It is easy to prepare a project for your students. I'm giving a full Ada training in 6 days - obviously no time to waste with setting up an environment. I provide a directory which already contains a .gpr file, and students don't have to care about the details -- --------------------------------------------------------- J-P. Rosen (rosen@adalog.fr) Visit Adalog's web site at http://www.adalog.fr