From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,7a278735334db126 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,7a278735334db126 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f5d71,7a278735334db126 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,7a278735334db126 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-02-07 12:42:54 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news2.telebyte.nl!newshub1.home.nl!home.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!fi.sn.net!newsfeed2.fi.sn.net!newsfeed.bahnhof.se!feeder1.news.jippii.net!news.cc.tut.fi!news.helsinki.fi!not-for-mail From: Joona I Palaste Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.java,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language Date: 7 Feb 2004 20:42:30 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sirppi.helsinki.fi X-Trace: oravannahka.helsinki.fi 1076186550 13962 128.214.205.27 (7 Feb 2004 20:42:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@helsinki.fi NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Feb 2004 20:42:30 GMT User-Agent: tin/1.4.2-20000205 ("Possession") (UNIX) (OSF1/V4.0 (alpha)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.c++:18035 comp.lang.c:21004 comp.lang.java:2756 comp.lang.ada:5322 Date: 2004-02-07T20:42:30+00:00 List-Id: Y2KYZFR1 scribbled the following on comp.lang.c: > Joona I Palaste wrote in message news:... >> Richard Heathfield scribbled the following >> on comp.lang.c: >> > Larry Hazel wrote: >> >> Christopher Benson-Manica wrote: >> >>> >> >>> When I need a language that's easy to use and readable, I turn >> >>> directly to C. Don't let me stop you, though. >> >> >> >> C? Easy to read? You have got to be kidding. >> >> > Compared to the other languages in this crosspost? Damn right it's easy to >> > read! :-) >> >> > I mean yes, okay, I know what you mean. Any sufficiently advanced IOCCC >> > entry is indistinguishable from line noise. But not /all/ C programs are >> > IOCCC entries! >> >> I find C harder to read than Java, and easier to read than C++. I >> don't know about Ada, as I've never seen it. But C and C++ are a >> breeze compared to the likes of Perl, Python and Lisp. They look like >> C looked while I was still a BASIC programmer: a random jumble of >> punctuation marks. > you have obviously never even seen a Python program, since it does not > use any punction marks. It ( and Lua ) are about as close to > executable pseudo-code as you can get. Python ( and Lua ) is > "comprehendable" by anyone that can read english for the most part. C > and C++ are not. > Python enforces rules about formatting even, so everyones Python code > HAS to conform to the same formatting rules, thus contributing to even > more "readibility" You might be right about that. I know neither Perl nor Python, but I have looked at both - and while Perl looks like a random jumble of punctuation marks, Python is actually more readable. Not that I could write a Python program to do anything beyond "Hello world", though - but I think I could if I took the trouble to learn it. -- /-- Joona Palaste (palaste@cc.helsinki.fi) ------------- Finland --------\ \-- http://www.helsinki.fi/~palaste --------------------- rules! --------/