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From: Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
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Subject: Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language
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In comp.lang.ada Victor Bazarov <v.Abazarov@comacast.net> wrote:
:> Now what does "read" mean?
: 
: What are you arguing about?  For somebody who never saw Latin alphabet,
: and only read Chinese all his life, what's easier to read? 

This is one of the questions implied by "Now what does 'read' mean?".
What's your answer?

(For example, I'm told that Chinese readers have an unusually
high reading speed, measured in time needed to absorb an article
containing a certain amount of "stuff" or "content".
I have not had difficulties reading Cobol fragments although
I know very little about Cobol.
I have had difficulties understanding the same ideas expressed
in other languages that I knew equally well.
How well can you express VHLevel programming constructs in
language X as compared to in language Y?)

: It has been
: already mentioned, readability, or, if you so desire, easiness to read,
: is in the eye of the beholder.

Mentioned... Well, claimed. How about referring to some results
in readability research (it exists)?  How much does readability affect
the outcome of programming endeavour? Over time?

: There is nothing else to talk about.

Uhm, yes. Could you?