From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,38159b1b5557a2e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-31 10:14:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Nature of XML (ramblings) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1075572893 23379 134.91.1.34 (31 Jan 2004 18:14:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/800)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5149 Date: 2004-01-31T18:14:53+00:00 List-Id: Marius Amado Alves wrote: : As I said, just rambling, but sometimes I feel the need to discuss these : higher concepts, to check if something has changed there with the : continuing appearance of new 'technologies'. I guess no changes since : last time I looked. Also, any XML appraisal touches a sensitive button : in me. I used to be attracted to XML. Now I find it horrible. Just today : I got this feeling independently. I was reading a PhD thesis by : Parmentier, where he transforms from BibTeX format to XML for "ease of : processing". And not ease of reading. : He shows an entry in the the two formats side by side. The : contrast in readability is stunning: BiTeX very readable, XML completely : unreadable. And (La)TeX is not usually particularly readable. Also, you : could see right away that an automaton for parsing the BibTeX would be : much simpler to right than for the XML, and I bet more simpler to do it : e.g. in Ada that to write the XSLT for the XML (and assembling and all : the required tools). XML is the major hoax of two millenia. XML is certainly a very much misunderstood language. (Is a parser for Ada easier than a parser for Oberon? Should we be writing programs in Oberon for that reason?) If you read bibliographies without the help of a computer providing a view suitable for humans, you should at least switch to SGML with SHORTTAG, and maybe OMITTAG. All this has been known when old SGML was standardised, XML is in parts a manifest of advances in editor construction -- users are supposed not to see it.