From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,93a8020cc980d113 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What is wrong with Ada? References: <1176150704.130880.248080@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1177160171.286985.167860@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1177163425.459427.175280@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1177166815.755789.85970@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> From: Markus E Leypold Organization: N/A Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:48:44 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hx3ZLqsjegnz1wBNHykW0smOSm8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.202.101 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1177170055 88.72.202.101 (21 Apr 2007 17:40:55 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15207 Date: 2007-04-21T17:48:44+02:00 List-Id: AJAskey writes: >> What is the procedure for obtaining tools for other languages? >> Can you obtain trial version of JUnit without filling out some form? >> Can you obtain trial versions of any Microsoft product at all? >> > > We downloaded Java for free with free Netbeans and Eclipse. If we > need a "tool" then we do need to go through the evaluation process. > But the problem is that Ada is the "base" and not a "tool". No one is > going to pay for entry into a development language when others are > free. Oh, I would. Only not 5 developer seats where I need 1 for maintenance in the long run. Using Ada under those licensing schemes is a all or nothing proposition: Either you really go for it, do large or many projects in Ada with maintenance and all and perhaps more than one developer -- or you don't, because you pay the entry cost anyway. But there is no way to start slowly (say 1 small project a time) and after the technology is proven (in your business / corporation) expand it, > People will pay to enhance the tool. But paying to evaluate > something on a small scale for a year isn't going to happen on a > regular basis. Well -- it's not done with evaluating for a year: If during this year you produce anything useful you probably would have to maintain it for the next years. Something you need a working compiler for. Regards -- Markus