From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f849b,b8d52151b7b306d2 X-Google-Attributes: gidf849b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,a00006d3c4735d70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-11 05:35:46 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-145-254-040-186.arcor-ip.NET!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Certified C compilers for safety-critical embedded systems Followup-To: comp.arch.embedded Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:42:17 +0100 Organization: At home Message-ID: References: <3fe00b82.90228601@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <5802069.JsgInS3tXa@linux1.krischik.com> <1072464162.325936@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1563361.SfB03k3vvC@linux1.krischik.com> <11LvOkBBXw7$EAJw@phaedsys.demon.co.uk> <3ff0687f.528387944@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1086072.fFeiH4ICbz@linux1.krischik.com> <3ff18d4d.603356952@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1731094.1f7Irsyk1h@linux1.krischik.com> <3ff1b8ef.614528516@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <3FF1E06D.A351CCB4@yahoo.com> <3ff20cc8.635997032@News.CIS.DFN.DE> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-145-254-040-186.arcor-ip.net (145.254.40.186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1073828145 10511387 145.254.40.186 ([77047]) User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch.embedded:7259 comp.lang.ada:4329 Date: 2004-01-11T14:42:17+01:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > Robert I. Eachus wrote: >> The Airbus 320 should bury the idea that theorem provers can result in >> safe software. > > It's always been my contention that writing the specifications which you > will then prove that a program obeys is exactly as hard as writing the > program itself. Maybe, but nobody showed any better way. Or do you think that XP (eXtreme Programming) did? -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de