From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1e3f2eac5c026e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-12-27 03:18:22 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!feed2.newsreader.com!newsreader.com!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!peernews3.colt.net!news0.de.colt.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Other Ada Standards (was Re: SIGada Conference) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: <468D78E4EE5C6A4093A4C00F29DF513D04B82B08@VS2.hdi.tvcabo> <3FE991DD.5060301@noplace.com> <3FEA5C82.8050309@noplace.com> <3FEB047A.1040100@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1072523901 9991 134.91.1.34 (27 Dec 2003 11:18:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:18:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/800)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3842 Date: 2003-12-27T11:18:21+00:00 List-Id: Russ <18k11tm001@sneakemail.com> wrote: : As I wrote in my original post, "with/use A.B;" would be exactly : equivalent to "with A.B; use A.B;" It's simple text substitution. Ah O.K., yes, preprocessing, not Ada. Coming back to one of your analogies, "use hammer", let me replace "hammer" with "potatoes". If you think of the way recipes are written, "with potatoes;" and then "use potatoes"; seems like the proper way to state things, namely in the "you need..." sections and the "you do..." sections respectively? :-) Using another analogy, a building site, you "bring Tools;" from the shop and then "apply Tools;" at the site. This looks like "with Tools; use Tools;" to me, to be understood in contexts that do require separate instructions (shop: with, site: use). But I still think analogies won't help. And can a programming language be but grammatically awkward if you measure its expressiveness by some (delibarately?) chosen subset of natural language? -- Georg