From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,61ca51fcfd50e9a9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-24 06:00:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: GNAT Programming System 1.4.0 release Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1069682419 21387 134.91.1.34 (24 Nov 2003 14:00:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:00:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/800)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2898 Date: 2003-11-24T14:00:19+00:00 List-Id: Preben Randhol wrote: : On 2003-11-24, Dale Stanbrough wrote: :> I think people dismiss too easily the skills and professionalism of :> other workers; putting at naught their training and experience. :> No one was saying that :> a GUI designer sits in isolation, weaving their magic without :> consulting anyone. Just as we would not expect a systems analyst :> to do a requirements without the customer. So, yes, : this person you describe as GUI : expert is the go-between. : Don't know what it is called in English, but the : problem one can get from using the computer mouse all day thanks to the : wonderful design of say Microsoft and other major companies with GUI : experts. It seems that the more significant factor in explanation is how well the mouse's design fits the person's hand, and whether or not the table is at a proper height etc. If you think of people playing computer games for many hours, can "mouse sickness" really be attributed to buttons in the user interface? That aside, "Designed by Xs for Xs" is likely from the marketing department I'd say :-) There are programmers who have seen and used user interfaces different from typical Windows' MDI, for example Plan 9 users. But the Plan 9 user interface is not popular, just like some programming languages, and so people have to make different announcements addressing the herd :-) Georg