From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-31 06:42:22 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eusc.inter.net!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? (The Big Player ACT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: <3F82B4A4.5060301@noplace.com> <3F82F527.3020101@noplace.com> <3F9EFDC6.7050508@noplace.com> <254c16a.0310290635.1a8b09d2@posting.google.com> <3FA04E6E.2070000@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1067611341 28817 134.91.1.34 (31 Oct 2003 14:42:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:42:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/800)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1871 Date: 2003-10-31T14:42:21+00:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: : That's why I've been suggesting that to get a good, Conventional Ada : Library of some sort that is used on most Ada platforms, its going to : take more than just some volunteers hacking some stuff together and : putting it on a web site. Even if that was just "a start" with the hope : that one day, the vendors would pick it up and build on it and turn it : into "The Standard", it has a whole lot of speculation and "ifs" to : overcome. I don't think it would work without some committment of : support and guidance from the vendors. It almost has to have some kind : of "for-profit" motive built into it or its just too big an undertaking : to happen on its own. There is extensive documentation for Charles, though (1) it is named STL elsewhere, and (2) Charles is "an Ada library", so there are differences. However, being "modelled principally on the C++ STL", there are quite some good books covering STL usage and concepts, and thus, mutatis mutandis, some Charles concepts. (Does it help knowing that STL work began with Ada and Scheme? :) And aren't there extensive reports about the Booch components? For the 83 version, you have a book covering a lot. Booch is a writer, too, isn't he, so I gather that the free Booch components aren't lightyears away from MS libraries, even where the documents aren't in the distribution, or in the source files? What do you think about the descriptions in the source files of Mats Weber's components? Georg