From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,442a61fa28886220 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-19 08:13:26 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!adsl-213-200-246-247.cybernet.CH!not-for-mail From: Vinzent Hoefler Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada for a programming newb. Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:12:43 +0200 Organization: JeLlyFish software Message-ID: References: <4zuab.5439$U6.3722@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> <1063984170.101129@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Reply-To: v.hoefler@acm.org NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-213-200-246-247.cybernet.ch (213.200.246.247) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1063984405 1198768 213.200.246.247 (16 [175126]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42685 Date: 2003-09-19T17:12:43+02:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: >chris wrote: >> What rubbish! Computing started with maths and is a form of=20 >> mathematics. A great deal of maths is side effect free. > >Computing started in the 1600s when Blaise Pascal invented >an adding machine. Nonsense. *Machine* supported computed started with the Abacus. At least. >It used side effects (movable wheels) to do its work. Well, every calculation on modern machines causes at least one side-effect. It moves electrons. Vinzent.