From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-22 02:36:23 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!eusc.inter.net!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Software Patent Concerns => New Black Markets? Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: <33bfd395.0308190954.5b7e296c@posting.google.com> <6kA0b.5574$q9.318397@read1.cgocable.net> <3F43F1C3.2020806@attbi.com> <7S91b.628$9a2.32928@news20.bellglobal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1061544982 22681 134.91.1.15 (22 Aug 2003 09:36:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:36:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/831)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41781 Date: 2003-08-22T09:36:22+00:00 List-Id: Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: : Thanks Robert, for sharing that with us. I generally find : pioneering work such as this, fascinating. Yes, thank You very much, this is highly interesting. Wouldn't it be a good idea to forward this information to Patterson and Hennessy, who address the v Neumann vs Mauchley and Eckert debate in their popular introductory computer architecture book, but without this particular bit? Also, there is a lot to learn from these incidents about the consequences of not talking to each other :_) Georg : Warren. : : Robert I. Eachus wrote: :> Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: :> :>> "They decreed that the stored-program idea rightfully :>> belonged in the public domain." :>> :>> And that is how it was decided, and we enjoy its benefits today. :> :> I knew many of the people involved in this. (Pres Eckart was best man :> at my parent's wedding, and my father at Pres's first wedding.) But :> more than that I knew a number of people who actually worked on Eniac in :> addition to the principle players. : ... :> Johnny von then wrote his infamous paper, recently declassified. The :> reason for the omitted references became obvious when that happened. The :> Johnny von paper was prepared with an annex that described some of the :> details of the implementation and credited Pres and John Mauchley. But