From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-17 16:40:22 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!eusc.inter.net!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: <3F3E1A7D.7040402@noplace.com> <3F3F90E7.8040406@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1061163621 8341 134.91.1.15 (17 Aug 2003 23:40:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:40:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/831)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41662 Date: 2003-08-17T23:40:21+00:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: : If the FSF is simply making an offer to you that you are free to accept : or reject, isn't that essentially what Microsoft is doing? It is the same in so far as there are offers that you may be free to accept or reject, but there seems to be a difference in the kinds of offerings. : You can : always say "no" and go get Linux or go buy a Sun machine or find some : other alternative - including not using a computer at all. I don't think you can, if you are in computer business. (I remember you writing "He who has the gold make the rules", roughly?) It is the rules that are established in computer business that count for many individual companies. If you look at the big picture, the IT market, then questions to be answered include, "is this or that licensing scheme good for the wealth of nations?" There is not just one individual who makes a choice, but many. The choices add up to the establishment of market constraints by establishing an expectation of what is usually there (for example, a windows media player with a number of codecs). If some content provider now whishes to offer video streams, what DMCA protection mechanism will they choose if any, and what will be the cost of their choice? Do they really have a choice after the more or less subtle and silent introduction of DMCA software in windows media players? Do consumers and producers really have the freedom to reject or accept DMCA players and MS streaming software? Georg