From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f039470e8f537101 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-07-30 06:18:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!info1.fnal.gov!nntp.upenn.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!adsl-213-200-246-247.cybernet.CH!not-for-mail From: Vinzent Hoefler Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ariane5 FAQ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:16:35 +0200 Organization: JeLlyFish software Message-ID: References: <3F215120.1040706@attbi.com> <1059151910.357790@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F248CEE.5050709@attbi.com> <3F25FB81.A81694FA@adaworks.com> <3F27638A.888BAEC4@adaworks.com> <3F27C236.F5234B9C@adaworks.com> Reply-To: v.hoefler@acm.org NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-213-200-246-247.cybernet.ch (213.200.246.247) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059571129 23103637 213.200.246.247 (16 [175126]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41008 Date: 2003-07-30T15:16:35+02:00 List-Id: Richard Riehle wrote: >I think it would be much more difficult to write a version of SPARK >for C++ than for Ada. Well, I guess so. :) Something similar is tried in Germany: . > In the process, one would lose too much of >what is useful in C++. Well, the FAQ at isn't very verbose about it, but after what I have read in some German newsgroups from one of the involved developers, it seems they (have to) try a different approach than SPARK takes. For instance you cannot have C++ without pointers like you can have Ada without access types. So I guess, trying to get a "Safe C++" how they call it, is *much* more work if you want to ensure software integrity at the same level SPARK already can. Vinzent.