From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,68c3e8a7414929f3,start X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Received: by 10.224.175.65 with SMTP id w1mr14901317qaz.7.1362308371635; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 02:59:31 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.85.233 with SMTP id k9mr1720854qez.41.1362308371609; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 02:59:31 -0800 (PST) Path: q17ni7qal.0!nntp.google.com!dd2no6720859qab.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 02:59:31 -0800 (PST) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2.230.82.82; posting-account=RAydgwoAAADLb7gHmJ1eBzKMAFUoNO64 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2.230.82.82 User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Why are Ada libraries so poor and disorganized? From: ferrariv65@gmail.com Injection-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 10:59:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2013-03-03T02:59:31-08:00 List-Id: Hello, Ada is VERY nice, as language, but let's face it: when it comes to librarie= s... Apart from the standard set of libraries (AWS, etc), there is not much else= worth mentioning. The list of available libraries at AdaPower [1] is far from being a satisfa= ctory toolkit. Many of the listed libraries have an amateurish look, as wel= l as being old and unmaintained. The webpage itself, which comes up as the = first result when searching for "Ada libraries" with Google, is very old (l= ook at the copyright) and shabby. I have seen better maintained webpages fo= r toy languages. What's even more embarrassing, is that not only the webpag= e that came up with this first Google result is so bad, but this is about t= he only search result that contains useful libraries! Honestly, if one were to judge the language from its available libraries (a= gain: apart from the core set of libraries), the impression would be that A= da is a hobby language. When in fact it is all the opposite! Sure, the Ada community is not as vital as the Python community, or that of= other languages, but the overall situation of the libraries is really disa= ppointing for a major language like Ada. I may be mistaken, but it seems that all the efforts about Ada maintenance = go into the language itself and in the IDE, with little consideration for t= he libraries. As is users were left to struggle on their own... With all the millions of dollars that are involved in Ada projects, and the= several companies and organizations involved, I am surprised that some eff= ort has not yet been made to give Ada a more decent library kit. I do hope you will realize that this is not a pointless rant, and that the = situation must be faced.=20 I believe the survival of the language is at stake here, and the pressing n= eed for a decent library toolkit should be a serious concern for all Ada pr= ogrammers. Unless you take the defeatist view that "Well, Ada is dying anyw= ay, so, what's the point of putting so much effort in to it?", which certai= nly I don't take. A concerned Ada user [1] http://www.adapower.com/index.php?Command=3DClass&ClassID=3DAdaLibs&Tit= le=3DAda+Libraries