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From: 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ)
Subject: memory management and productivity
Date: 16 Jun 2004 21:56:23 -0700
Date: 2004-06-16T21:56:23-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bebbba07.0406162056.334745ed@posting.google.com> (raw)

The following is an excerpt from an article featured on Slashdot today
(6/16/04). The excerpted paragraph is not even the main topic of the
article, but it made wonder what chance Ada has in the future without
automatic memory management. It seems to me that garbage collection
should be optional within the language.

excerpt from http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html

How Microsoft Lost the API War
By Joel Spolsky

...

A lot of us thought in the 1990s that the big battle would be between
procedural and object oriented programming, and we thought that object
oriented programming would provide a big boost in programmer
productivity. I thought that, too. Some people still think that. It
turns out we were wrong. Object oriented programming is handy dandy,
but it's not really the productivity booster that was promised. The
real significant productivity advance we've had in programming has
been from languages which manage memory for you automatically. It can
be with reference counting or garbage collection; it can be Java,
Lisp, Visual Basic (even 1.0), Smalltalk, or any of a number of
scripting languages. If your programming language allows you to grab a
chunk of memory without thinking about how it's going to be released
when you're done with it, you're using a managed-memory language, and
you are going to be much more efficient than someone using a language
in which you have to explicitly manage memory. Whenever you hear
someone bragging about how productive their language is, they're
probably getting most of that productivity from the automated memory
management, even if they misattribute it.



             reply	other threads:[~2004-06-17  4:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-17  4:56 Russ [this message]
2004-06-17  5:15 ` memory management and productivity tmoran
2004-06-17  8:07 ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-18 23:10   ` Russ
2004-06-19  9:04     ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-21  4:16       ` Russ
2004-06-21  7:29         ` Jano
2004-06-21  8:02           ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-21  8:22             ` Jano
2004-06-21  9:07               ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-21 22:36             ` Brian May
2004-06-22  7:47               ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-21  8:14           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2004-06-21  8:27             ` Jano
2004-06-21  8:29             ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-22  7:53               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2004-06-26 15:44                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-21 16:31             ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-22  7:58               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2004-06-21  8:14           ` Martin Krischik
2004-06-21 15:22             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-21 16:47               ` Martin Krischik
2004-06-21 17:51           ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-22 17:02             ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-26 15:54             ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-21  7:46         ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-21 19:03           ` Russ
2004-06-22  2:39             ` David Starner
2004-06-22  8:03               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2004-06-23  4:41                 ` Russ
2004-06-23  7:41                   ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-23 17:36                     ` Björn Persson
2004-06-23 22:06                       ` David Starner
2004-06-24  0:34                         ` Björn Persson
2004-06-24  6:45                           ` Martin Krischik
2004-06-24 10:27                             ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-23 23:02                       ` Russ
2004-06-26 16:16                         ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-23 13:11                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-23 17:21                     ` Björn Persson
2004-06-24  7:35                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2004-06-26 17:10                         ` Simon Wright
2004-06-23 18:18                     ` Russ
2004-06-23 23:18                       ` David Starner
2004-06-23 22:15                     ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                     ` <bebbba07.0406231018.21Organization: LJK Software <IKJODEu6UfVI@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2004-06-24  6:40                       ` Russ
2004-06-26 16:33                         ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-29  0:33                           ` Randy Brukardt
2004-06-24 13:29                     ` Stephen Leake
2004-06-24 14:09                       ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-24 19:58                         ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-25  1:30                         ` Stephen Leake
2004-06-25  2:15                         ` Russ
2004-06-24 19:26                       ` Russ
2004-06-25  1:37                         ` Stephen Leake
2004-06-25 10:13                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2004-06-26  0:20                             ` David Starner
2004-06-25 23:35                           ` Russ
2004-06-26 11:27                             ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-26 13:45                             ` Ed Falis
2004-06-26 20:38                               ` Russ
2004-06-26 21:36                                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-06-27  7:54                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-06-26 17:20                             ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-25  8:52                         ` David Starner
2004-06-24 20:51                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-22  6:09             ` Martin Krischik
2004-06-22 10:20             ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-26 16:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-21  8:23         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2004-06-21 10:33 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
2004-06-21 10:38 ` Jano
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