From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,60e2922351e0e780 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-11 12:35:35 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Clause "with and use" Date: 11 Nov 2003 12:35:34 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <3FACCBFB.9D288CF2@fakeaddress.nil> <3FAF8C99.5040201@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.194.87.148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1068582935 32160 127.0.0.1 (11 Nov 2003 20:35:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2373 Date: 2003-11-11T12:35:34-08:00 List-Id: Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler wrote in message news:... > Preben Randhol wrote: > > >If you are interested in fixing leaks in the roof (to use your analogy), > >I suggest that is what you should worry about too. Not run around in > >the shed reorganising the tools. > > I guess, that's what Russ tried to point out. A typical manager would > reorganize the complete toolchain first. BTST. This is amazing. My analogy was between redundant "with/use" clauses and clutter in the front yard of a house for sale. What in the frickin' world does that have to do with reorganizing a tool shed? Look, you are free to create your own analogies, but please don't twist mine beyond recognition and then imagine that they are still my analogies. It's unethical. Got that, little boy? > So it seems that a whole bunch of Ada users have a hard time dealing > with manager's thinking and talking marketing speech. Oh, not that I > would actually miss that. :-P I really feel sorry for all you poor guys with the clueless PHBs. My managers are fairly reasonable for the most part. My job is as about as far from marketing and management as you can get, but I am mature enough to understand that managers have an important job to do. For starters, without them, I would get no funding for my work. And they are wise enough to give me lots of discretion on how I do my work. You seem to have nothing but disdain for your managers. Well, maybe they earned it, but judging by your attitude, I'll bet that you are simply too immature to appreciate their responsibilities. If they're pinheads, then I'd say they deserve you and you deserve them. You deserve each other. Maybe someday you'll grow up, little boy.