From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8c8550b9f2cf7d40 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-09 10:46:23 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is ther any sense in *= and matrices? Date: 9 Jun 2003 10:46:21 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.102.146.44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1055180782 22592 127.0.0.1 (9 Jun 2003 17:46:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jun 2003 17:46:22 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:38867 Date: 2003-06-09T17:46:22+00:00 List-Id: "Bobby D. Bryant" wrote in message news:... > On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 21:27:13 -0700, Russ wrote: > > > "Bobby D. Bryant" wrote in message > > news:... > >> On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 11:51:31 -0700, Russ wrote: > >> > >> > "John R. Strohm" wrote in message > >> > news:... > > >> >> With all due respect, ladies and gentlemen, it has been known for a > >> >> very long time that the difference in "efficiency" between A := A + > >> >> B and A += B is lost in the noise floor compared to the improvements > >> >> that can be gotten by improving the algorithms involved. > >> > > >> > Oh, really? I just did a test in C++ with 3x3 matrices. I added them > >> > together 10,000,000 times using "+", then "+=". The "+=" version took > >> > about 19 seconds, and the "+" version took about 55 seconds. That's > >> > just shy of a factor of 3, folks. If that's your "noise floor," I > >> > can't help wonder what kind of "algorithms" you are dealing with! > >> > >> I'm just curious why the compiler didn't generate the same code for > >> both versions. > > > > The compiler didn't generate the code. I did. > > No, I'm talking about the compiler's machine-code output. You wrote in > C++, right? Yes, I wrote it in C++. I would not have expected the compiler to generate the same code for both versions. I did not use any optimization flag, by the way, but even if I had, I still would not have expected the same executable. If you think it should, your beef is with the gcc folks.