From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-16 11:23:48 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? Date: 16 Jun 2002 11:23:48 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.194.87.148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1024251828 6538 127.0.0.1 (16 Jun 2002 18:23:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jun 2002 18:23:48 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26080 Date: 2002-06-16T18:23:48+00:00 List-Id: Pascal Obry wrote in message news:... > 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) writes: > > > I also happen to think that Ada's awkward syntax is part of the > > problem. My proposal for a cleaner Ada syntax option can be found at > > http://RussP.org/Ada.htm > > Of course this is not Ada anymore... Do you think it is a good idea to > push a new language to have Ada more widely used ? Yes, it IS still essentially Ada, because you can still use standard Ada compilers. A simple pre-processor could convert the cleaner dialect to standard Ada 95, and ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE TO USE STANDARD ADA 95 COULD CONTINUE TO DO SO. I really don't understand the objection to my proposal. Ada advocates keep telling me they like Ada's syntax and it doesn't need to be changed. But the question is not whether CURRENT Ada users like it; the question is why so few OTHER programmers are showing any interest in Ada, despite it's superior fundamental design. When programmers take a first look at a new language, the first thing they see is the syntax. Ever heard the old expression, "The first impression is the most important one."? And no, I am not claiming that my syntax proposal is the entire answer, but I do believe it would be a modest step in the right direction.