From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-15 11:52:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? Date: 15 Jun 2002 11:52:00 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.194.87.148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1024167122 19541 127.0.0.1 (15 Jun 2002 18:52:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jun 2002 18:52:02 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26036 Date: 2002-06-15T18:52:02+00:00 List-Id: "Ehud Lamm" wrote in message news:... > There were attempts by Musser and Stepanov using Ada IIRC, but the current > design of the STL uses many C++ specific "tricks". If only someone could get them interested again. > There are many great Ada libraries around. What we still don't have is > containers and algorithms as part of the Ada standard library. I am an aerospace engineer at a government research center with a major program on air traffic management. The controller support systems developed here have traditionally been written in C, with a gradual migration toward C++. I am trying to push Ada, but I am encountering all kinds of resistance. The main objection is usually that Ada programmers are too hard to find. More recently, a top expert (a gcc maintainer) is claiming that the STL overcomes many of the objections to C++. If Ada doesn't soon have something comparable to STL that is reasonably stable and at least on track for standardization, it could be in trouble. A few years ago, the FAA was demanding that all our conroller support systems eventually be rewritten in Ada. Now I have to practically beg to get anyone to even consider Ada. It doesn't bode well, but perhaps there is hope. I also happen to think that Ada's awkward syntax is part of the problem. My proposal for a cleaner Ada syntax option can be found at http://RussP.org/Ada.htm > Many people are trying to help solve this problem. Check out the previous > couple on months on comp.lang.ada. > > A few of us are going to meet an discuss how to help push this along, during > the Ada-Europe'2002 conference next week. > (http://www.auto.tuwien.ac.at/AE2002/program.html) I wish you success. > Ehud Lamm > > "Russ" <18k11tm001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:bebbba07.0206132321.23d72ac8@posting.google.com... > > I am trying to determine the status of the Ada version of the C++ > > Standard Template Library. I see that this has been discussed in the > > past on comp.lang.ada, but I don't see much on it in the past year or > > so. Is it still in the works somewhere? How far along is it compared > > to the C++ STL? And does Ada have any fundamental limitations that > > preclude the full functionality of the C++ version? Thanks.