From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:2712:: with SMTP id n18-v6mr2593209ion.90.1535205370089; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 06:56:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:de07:: with SMTP id v7-v6mr120997oig.5.1535205369976; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 06:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder4.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!g24-v6no1612821iti.0!news-out.google.com!c63-v6ni1692ith.0!nntp.google.com!w19-v6no1611357itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 06:56:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.195.62; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.195.62 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Studying and Maintaining GNAT, Is There Any Interest in a New Group? From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:56:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2361 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1730440988 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:54243 Date: 2018-08-25T06:56:09-07:00 List-Id: Name/affiliation alone will not be enough to influence anyone. Your clout = would come from maintaining a separate fork in Git (such as on GitHub/etc) = that has better content (either bug fixes or features) than FSF GNAT or tha= n AdaCore GPL Community Edition. It does not need to be a superset of AdaC= ore's features; importation of some AdaCore advances can lag by months. Ra= ther the fork must contain content that is respectable in its own right as = sought-after bug fixes or sought-after features that cannot be obtained (fo= r now) elsewhere. Your clout would come from code that works, not from a name or from an affi= liation. To do this, this new group would need to be prepared to maintain = a fork of FSF GNAT for a long term, analogous to back in the mid-1990s when= Lucid XEmacs added X Windows support to a fork of GNU Emacs, which eventua= lly pressured GNU Emacs to follow XEmacs's leadership. (Note however that = Lucid Software went bankrupt during that effort, so there is that.)