From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ef5652f3baa771b0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-07-03 06:58:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news-feed1.de1.concert.net!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada packages and/on web pages (was Re: GPGME (was Re: GnuPG binding?)) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: <1403134.1xZY1MnvJa@linux1.krischik.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1057240700 28936 134.91.1.15 (3 Jul 2003 13:58:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:58:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/831)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:40023 Date: 2003-07-03T13:58:20+00:00 List-Id: Preben Randhol wrote: :> :> (This text is drifting towards "writing Ada programs compared to :> writing web pages", among other things.) : : I think we are talking around ourselfs :-) Yes, maybe so :-) : Group reply? (you instruct your email program to send at least to From:, and to Cc:.) : Use privoxy and ads go away :-) but the layout will still be distracting and not related to the main subject of the page. It's a compromise. : Consider not every hobbyist out there have : the money to keep web-sites alive. Form/join a group! :> The whole point of good hyperlinking is that you won't have to :> do a search, because the page is linked in context :-) : : But that is what I am saying. Use freshmeat, adapower, adaic, yahoo and : register the homepage of your software so one can easily find it The difference is that freshmeat will be the analog of an index, but the web, if only indexed, will not automatically be cross-referencing. : But : you said that was careless, which I do not understand at all. No, again, I didn't say, or didn't mean to say this. I thought one shouldn't step from lack of proper(!) web page setup to freshmeat et al. _as a solution to this lack_ AND think, "Job done." : But I still don't understand how you think this is feasible. It is feasable using _all_ available means among communicating human beings, not just an indexing service, plus some effort. See below for an example that _exists_. : Say : tomorrow I want to start planning a program that can encrypt/decrypt : streams. So I naturally wants to see if somebody else already has done : this as a library I can use. So then [...] : I'll have to try yahoo or google. This is the sad situation that is a necessary consequence of not making cross references, via good hyperlinking. (You could of course add c.l.ada, or collegues, or ... to your sources of information. Just use the human _communications_ network (which is also a social network).) : OK so you are talking about making an Adaforge.net? I am trying to talk about authors who include helpful links to sources of information in their articles about their software. As an example, consider some parts of the GNAT library sources. There are reference of the kind, "this implementation is based on algorithm xyz, as published in Wizards' Magazine, 1976". I don't need Ada power or Google at _that_ point to find more comments about the implementation. As another example, consider a web page giving a bird's eyes view of some package. The author might have written in the page's text, "The types in this package are derived from AUnit's ABC type." or, better, he or she might have written, "The types in this package are derived from AUnit's ABC type." If the author chooses the second option, there is no need to search Google for AUnit, and recursively for Unit testing and Extreme programming. You will find enough information on the linked page, which again (recursively) has pointers (links) to other useful information, in this case, pointers to Unit Testing, and Extreme Programming. (Transitive closure of good hyperlinks.) So having good links is feasable, in fact the presence of URIs in hypertext document type definitions has been a deliberate choice to help make this cross referencing a reality ;-) The WWW _could_ be a good dictionary, with search engines becoming just a useful add on.