From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f948976d12c7ee33 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-25 03:25:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-145-254-043-044.arcor-ip.NET!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Boeing and Dreamliner Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:28:25 +0200 Organization: At home Message-ID: References: <3EF5F3F3.6000806@attbi.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-145-254-043-044.arcor-ip.net (145.254.43.44) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1056536740 28787176 145.254.43.44 (16 [77047]) User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:39713 Date: 2003-06-25T12:28:25+02:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > Wesley Groleau wrote: >> In some application domains, using C++ should be criminal. > > Umm, no. Not naming concrete languages: "using knowingly wrong technology is criminal in some application domains." Using any programming language is definitely a technology. Thus, according to you, C++ is universally applicable everywhere under any circumstances. I would not claim that even for Ada. >> The fact that Ada is not perfect will NEVER justify using > > something that's worse when lives are at stake. > > C++ isn't worse. It's different. People who favor their own > little pet language will say it's worse, but that's not really > my problem. I'm sure C++ is used in lots of areas where lives > are at stake. Compare with: "I'm sure that many physicians do not clean their hands." > > Were lives at stake in Ariane? > > Hundreds of millions of dollars were at stake, which is easily > the equivalent of a few lives. Lots of lives, in some places. So the proposition is: "In some places one could take someone's life for pair dollars => if somebody dies because of my fault, I would not care, I would just get one beer less." Observe that logically (and legally) it isn't perfect, because "place" in the left and right parts of the proposition are different. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de