From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f948976d12c7ee33 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-22 08:49:55 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news-feed1.de1.concert.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-145-254-039-016.arcor-ip.NET!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Boeing and Dreamliner Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:52:41 +0200 Organization: At home Message-ID: References: <3EF5B10E.40804@noplace.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-145-254-039-016.arcor-ip.net (145.254.39.16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1056296993 26318371 145.254.39.16 (16 [77047]) User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:39567 Date: 2003-06-22T17:52:41+02:00 List-Id: James Rogers wrote: > I believe the point was that expert witnesses could not show that > using Ada by itself prevents class A mishaps. In that respect he > is correct. The remark was in response to the assertion that this > newsgroup could provide many expert witnesses to support a claim > that use of C++ in avionics was irresponsible. > > The problem is that such testimony is highly technical. > Such a technical level of information is easily distorted by a > clever lawyer who relies upon the confusion of the judge and > jury. A question about the Ariane 5 would be the opening argument > from such a lawyer. True, one should argue on same level of [in]competence. Isn't the time to start sampling examples of crashes C/C++, C#, Java systems? At AdaPower? It would be nice to present our customers tables and graphs of overall losses caused by C++ software per year. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de