From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b30bd69fa8f63cb2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-12 00:36:35 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!213.200.246.247!not-for-mail From: Vinzent Hoefler Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Compilers on old machines (was: C bug of the day) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:35:07 +0200 Organization: JeLlyFish software Message-ID: References: <1054751321.434656@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <20030611125000.000018b5._elh_@_terma_._com_> NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.200.246.247 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1055403393 17091055 213.200.246.247 (16 [175126]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:39033 Date: 2003-06-12T09:35:07+02:00 List-Id: Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >Vinzent Hoefler fed this fish to the penguins on Wednesday 11 June 2003=20 >04:08 am: > >> At least for 6502 and Z80 exist C-compilers, so I don't see why there >> shouldn't be any Ada-Compiler. I even remember playing around with >> Pascal and FORTH on a Z80 machine (around 1986). >> > Rather late... Hey, I was just a little twelve-year-old-boy at that time... :) >My TRS-80 was being replaced with an Amiga in that time=20 >frame. Well, in the GDR (aka. East Germany) such stuff was quite hard to get and if so, it was damn expensive. Some of my friends were *very* proud of their C64's. > My TRS-80, in 1982/83, was running Alcor Pascal, Supersoft LISP,= and=20 >Misosys Pro-MC (a K&R C that may have started life as LC, and the=20 >latter was a Small-C variant). 64KBytes (of which the OS sucked up=20 >about 8KB), dual 180K floppies. Supersoft LISP actually ran on a 32K=20 >machine with no disk drives, just an audio cassette. Same here. Not actually LISP, I mean the cassette. Kind of fun to wait for three minutes just to load the compiler. >The OS had=20 >features Windows still lacks (individual passwords on files, 7level=20 >file access permission, automatic drive search [not really needed these=20 >days] for files if no drive specified [or the default drive is=20 >read-only and you open an output file], and a /job log/). Pretty impressive for such small machines. At least compared with today, where Pacman would need 3D-Hardware, a Gigaherz-CPU, at least 256 MB RAM to run, and would eat 500 MBytes of disk space. ;) I like the small machines. Probably this is why I like doing things with an 8 MHz-CPU that even a today's Pentium-IV couldn't reliably do on Windows. Vinzent. --=20 Parents strongly cautioned -- this posting is intended for mature audiences over 18. It may contain some material that many parents would not find suitable for children and may include intense violence, sexual situations, coarse language and suggestive dialogue.