From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d5931b040ae9423f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: New open source UML tool including Ada support References: <1184060318.279769.238890@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <7jfy3we76c.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1184083855.206336.304480@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184098484.814202.54350@p39g2000hse.googlegroups.com> From: Markus E Leypold Organization: N/A Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:35:02 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) Cancel-Lock: sha1:n5jepIWpruHVPdqIaspUNrthmrU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.207.15 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1184106266 88.72.207.15 (11 Jul 2007 00:24:26 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!feeder1.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.141.40.68.MISMATCH!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer1.kpn.DE!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:16465 Date: 2007-07-11T00:35:02+02:00 List-Id: > On Jul 10, 6:08 pm, Markus E Leypold > wrote: > [snip] >> licensing. The problem simply is, that the page AFAIS doesn't state a >> license (so I can do everything with the tool I want? -- strange) and >> that we can't assume you get the tool under *GPL since you can't give >> it to others under that circumstances w/o source. > > Well the Aonix press release states: > > "Under the new open source policy, Ameos is available > under terms based on the GNU Lesser General Public > License (LGPL) as OpenAmeos." > > Which sounds promising to me! :-) Yes, _promising_. But at the moment there is only an executable, no source. And I have been wondering about the license this executable is under, since anybody getting it, can't resditribute it under the LGPL/modified-whatever, because, well he hasn't gotten the source (and probably not not LGPL license too, because that would guarantee him the source). Murky legal questions are lurking there in the dark. I wonder why people do things like this, instead of just going public when the source IS there. Or getting the press release right (saying the're now free-as-beer but intent to go open). As I interpret the terms of use: This version, presently available is free-as-in-beer. What will happen in future, we will have to see and the press release is at least 2 weeks early: "is available" should better read "will be available" -- and I notice they give no deadline for that either. (Does anybody remember OpenDOS, the former DR-DOS: Should have become available as open source, first they made a binary release, there even was some (non-compiling) source code available for a very limited time under a not-so-open license. Said they needed to clean up. And they cleaned and cleaned and after a number of months (more than 12, I remember), they (I think it even was Caldera) decided that OpenDOS was an asset and they decide not to open it up. Wow. Cool publicity stunt. Not that I say that is what Aonix intends, but after more than 2 decades in the industry I believe only in deeds rather than promises.) Regards -- Markus