From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e0e1d3b3f7c994b8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Maciej Sobczak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Robert Dewar's great article about the Strengths of Ada over Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <13t4b2kkjem20f3@corp.supernews.com> <89af8399-94fb-42b3-909d-edf3c98d32e5@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <53e0fda7-a536-4899-a115-9d4e137ac698@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <26533c61-29ed-4edd-afff-b77c82f92e3a@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.141.45.224 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1205225967 15279 127.0.0.1 (11 Mar 2008 08:59:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=128.141.45.224; posting-account=bMuEOQoAAACUUr_ghL3RBIi5neBZ5w_S User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20290 Date: 2008-03-11T01:59:26-07:00 List-Id: On 11 Mar, 01:48, "Jeffrey R. Carter" wrote: > > Those who use Ada and any external library that they did not write > > themselves are not writing in Ada. > > Correct. They are writing in Ada plus the library. This is not a problem when > the library is portable. Yes. Portable libraries are very important. For example, C++ programmers have portable libraries for multithreading (among others). > You are apparently not very good at logic. File operations are part of the > language, so obviously they are Ada. Function calls and class instantiations are part of C++, so obviously using libraries that manage multithreading via function calls and class instantiations is C++. (This conversation is dead boring, but I just cannot stop.) > As for the others, you've already been given examples that were written in Ada, > but you choose to ignore inconvenient facts. Do you need examples of multithreaded C++ programs? What did you use to send your last post? Looks like Thunderbird. It is one of the most successful C++ applications out there. > > No matter how much you hate this idea, I can write multithreaded > > software in C++. > > No matter how much you hate the idea, you can but you don't. Fortunately, my multithreaded C++ software does not know this. Otherwise it would have to stop working. > > Yes. That's why some use C++. Or Ada. > > Those who use C++ by choice have already demonstrated that they want to waste > their time. I disagree. And probably the only thing I can do now (while being at least a little bit constructive) is to offer my consulting services on effective C++ programming. BTW - this is what I got yesterday: +===========================GNAT BUG DETECTED==============================+ | 4.3.0 20070527 (experimental) (i686-apple-darwin8) Assert_Failure atree.adb:2893| [...] It was a basic program like the ones in Ada Gems. I guess I have to install a newer compiler. ;-) -- Maciej Sobczak * www.msobczak.com * www.inspirel.com