From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:35c2:: with SMTP id k63-v6mr14594352ioo.38.1525386216442; Thu, 03 May 2018 15:23:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:830:: with SMTP id 45-v6mr1768153oty.7.1525386216300; Thu, 03 May 2018 15:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!f199-v6no994485itd.0!news-out.google.com!b185-v6ni1176itb.0!nntp.google.com!v8-v6no999212itc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 15:23:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878t901jp4.fsf@nightsong.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.233.194; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.233.194 References: <9c3a75d6-a01f-4cfa-9493-10b8b082ead8@googlegroups.com> <114db2c4-1e8c-4506-8d7c-df955dd9f808@googlegroups.com> <87d0yc1lsq.fsf@nightsong.com> <878t901jp4.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Precisely why can't official FSF GNAT maintainers copy bug fixes in GNAT & its GCC-contained runtime en masse from GNAT GPL Community Edition? From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 22:23:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51953 Date: 2018-05-03T15:23:36-07:00 List-Id: On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 5:02:52 PM UTC-5, Paul Rubin wrote: > "Dan'l Miller" writes: > > But the rights to copy have already been irrevocably =E2=80=A2assigned= =E2=80=A2 to FSF, >=20 > Do you know the terms of the assignment contract? =E2=80=9CWhen a group at NYU developed the GNU Ada Compiler, with funding f= rom the US Air Force, the contract explicitly called for donating the resul= ting code to the Free Software Foundation.=E2=80=9D https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/university.html It is only a matter of effort to find that US Air Force contract in the pub= lic records of the federal government. Here is some prior(-to-now) edition of the assignment contract: http://www.dreamsongs.com/IHE/IHE-110.html This is the process, specifying the content of the assignment contract: https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Papers.html pertinent commentary on it: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.en.html > >> Anyway, when you > > =E2=80=9Cyou=E2=80=9D =3D AdaCore here? >=20 > No, "you" =3D Dan'l Miller, No, I am not an official maintainer of FSF GNAT. I speak only of official = maintainers of FSF GNAT. Quit casting aspersions on my personal asparagus.= I am merely a passive observer, a spectator, chewing popcorn, sitting in = my seat in the audience. > > Remember, wasn't AdaCore the party who removed the FSF's Runtime > > Exception via a script =E2=80=A2after=E2=80=A2 AdaCore irrevocably assi= gning the > > source code to FSF? >=20 > The runtime exception still applies to the version that FSF got. What FSF got was irrevocable assignment of all ownership. The content of t= he files doesn't matter to the owner of the legal rights to that content. = As assignee, FSF owns the content of those rights-assigned files no matter = what the assigner legitimately put into them as work for hire.