From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-02 08:20:38 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: kcline17@hotmail.com (Kevin Cline) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died (was): 64 bit addressing and OOP Date: 2 May 2003 08:20:38 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: References: <9fa75d42.0304300412.3c9f8157@posting.google.com> <98BC68183770643E.43B22CFE5F4D5EFD.5566989BE627964B@lp.airnews.net> <9fa75d42.0305010645.7a5572ed@posting.google.com> <3EB1C603.7788E194@adaworks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.76.54.22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1051888838 13392 127.0.0.1 (2 May 2003 15:20:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 May 2003 15:20:38 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63047 comp.object:62555 comp.lang.ada:36863 misc.misc:13903 Date: 2003-05-02T15:20:38+00:00 List-Id: Richard Riehle wrote in message news:<3EB1C603.7788E194@adaworks.com>... > soft-eng wrote: > > > "John R. Strohm" wrote in message news:<98BC68183770643E.43B22CFE5F4D5EFD.5566989BE627964B@lp.airnews.net>... > > > > > Why don't you *tell* us where your views on Ada come from? > > > > > > So far, you have said a great deal that suggests that you have NO actual > > > experience with Ada. > > > > Mostly peripheral and theoretical. Taught Ada to graduate students for > > evening class. Had to learn about it from an academic viewpoint. > > One more amateur teaching Ada with no experience using it on > projects. There was so much of this going around that no one > should be suprised that so many students came away from their > Ada classes with a distorted view of the language. Do you think the situation is better for other languages? It certainly isn't for C++. I've interviewed people who taught evening classes in C++ and OOP at the university level and they were hopelessly confused.