From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6e45fe936511d518 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: anon@anon.org (anon) Subject: Re: GNAT - System.ads - System Implementation Parameters Reply-To: anon@anon.org (anon) References: <74711a57-e7f2-4a11-90bc-865a3fd07d5d@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:20:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.64.204.124 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1203301255 12.64.204.124 (Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:20:55 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:20:55 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19848 Date: 2008-02-18T02:20:55+00:00 List-Id: Some of the parameters in the System.adb are used by the GCC backend code and with every change these parameters may go out of favor. Some others parameters like "OpenVMS" are use for that OS only. As of GNAT 4.3x, the System.ads contains the following three statements: -- Obsolete entries, to be removed eventually (bootstrap issues!) High_Integrity_Mode : constant Boolean := False; Long_Shifts_Inlined : constant Boolean := True; If you delete them Target.adb will cause the system to fail with an error that states: fatal error: system.ads is incorrectly formatted missing line for parameter: High_Integrity_Mode fatal error: system.ads is incorrectly formatted missing line for parameter: Long_Shifts_Inlined As for PRICING for Ada Systems (Compiler +) Ada 2005 (2007) specs (open source) Note: As of Feb, 15: Adacore is the only company that supports Ada 2005 (2007) specs. GNAT GPL -- free but you must learn or ask others for information including buying books. In Mar, 2007 it was report that Adacore charges $14K per year for the GNAT PRO version. Ada 95/83 specs (only) (close source, non-gpl license) IBM and others will be around $500 for the compiler and they will allow UNIX / LINUX Windows environment Other companies pricing will be about $500 for Windows only envirnoent. But from what I am understanding you because of a number of reasons which may include censorship (low price site have a great deal of rules with few webmaster controls), you need to run your own web server. So, except for the time it will take to download and and install, the software price is free. Use the MaRTE OS (latest, includes the Ada-2005 specs compiler) and get the Apache web server. Compile and run the Apache server under the MaRTE. MaRTE has the programming hooks for Ada and C with POSIX interfaces so you can write faster web apps. This enviroment will alow you to still use the old CGI under the Apache server until you have time to write the faster code. Plus, you can create two or more system freely so that the Internet server is not down during the testing phase of creating the new web apps. In , Hibou57 writes: >On 17 f=E9v, 10:11, Ludovic Brenta wrote: >> If you spend enough time learning how to change the runtime, then you >> will enter the second category. If you don't want to do that but >> insist on a bespoke runtime, pay for support. >> >> -- >> Ludovic Brenta. > >Do you know the pricing ? > >I've had a convertion with the commercial service (france), beceause I >was looking for a commercial support (I was asking to buy a >lightweigth version of the runtime). > >Unfortunately, the base price, in as hight as 12,000 EURO > >Do you really think that most of people can pay so much ? > >Ok for support, and to pay for it.... but the price is really to much. > >By the way, if some one can sell a light runtime for about 60$, I'm >ok ;)