From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,8de7eedad50552f1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.bahnhof.se!195.197.54.117.MISMATCH!feeder1.news.jippii.net!reader1.news.jippii.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Tapio Kelloniemi Subject: Re: [OT] Ada bench : count words References: <1w51pl4zm2xg.1fzsnvplybknf$.dlg@40tude.net> Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:53:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.30.176.187 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@saunalahti.com X-Trace: reader1.news.jippii.net 1112111623 217.30.176.187 (Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:53:43 EEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:53:43 EEST Organization: Saunalahti Customer Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10121 Date: 2005-03-29T15:53:43+00:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote: >On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:00:22 GMT, Tapio Kelloniemi wrote: >> But if some GUI program has a feature you need, but it is unable to >> share data (or otherwise co-operate) with other programs, it is useless. > >Even if "what I need" /= "share data with other programs"? This is a bit poor example, but itshows what I mean. I return to the office example. I have written a book using that cool WYSIWYG application which has a very nice look and feel. But the WYSIWYG application has bulit-in support for some print spoolers. My host doesn't happen to run any of them. It also refuses to output raw postscript. My friend is running the required print spooler on his host, so I copy my book (10 MB) to his computer. Unfortunately I have just wasted bandwidth since that cool WYSIWYG program refuses to start up without an X display when I invoke it through SSH. >> Also I haven't heard of wizard applications which automate using >> GUI programs. I think it is much easier to write a bash script which >> invokes those hard to remember commands rather than writing an application >> which automates moving the mouse pointer to specified coordinates and then >> simulates a click. And that clicker wizard is even not portable to other >> screen resolutions... > >You seem to mix program and user interfaces of an OS. I don't argue against >the former. But GUIs cannot be automated (as command-line tools can be). GUI (or TUI) is a must for some things (like text editing), but command-line is much more powerful for many other things. -- Tapio