From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-22 04:00:10 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!4.24.21.153!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!chcgil2-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died)) Date: 22 May 2003 06:00:06 -0500 Organization: Berbee Information Networks Corporation Message-ID: References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305091549.48b9c5d9@posting.google.com> <7507f79d.0305121629.5b8b7369@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305130643.526f61c2@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305140436.534f7151@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305160440.7846d1Organization: LJK Software NNTP-Posting-Host: eisner.encompasserve.org X-Trace: grandcanyon.binc.net 1053601142 7941 192.135.80.34 (22 May 2003 10:59:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@binc.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:37635 Date: 2003-05-22T06:00:06-05:00 List-Id: In article <3ecca391$1@news.wineasy.se>, "Tarjei T. Jensen" writes: > Marin David Condic wrote: >> True, but with an OS this is achievable. It is possible to build an OS > that >> won't crash because of the particular application being run on it. (Or at >> least crash so infrequently as to be practically the same thing). > > I know of no operating system which does not crash because of application > behaviour. Some does so more seldom than others, but they still do. Are you saying that operating systems survive longer if you don't use them ? Or are you saying there is generally _specific_ application behavior that can trigger a crash ? 24 years ago there was a magic sequence I could type on the console to provoke (unintended) crashes. Seven versions later, that is now gone, and most of the crashes I read about (but do not experience myself) are exotic race conditions that might not be encountered with zero load, but certainly are not a direct response to any particular application activity.