From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,34b29f7884ececc8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-11 04:15:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.airnews.net!cabal12.airnews.net!usenet From: "John R. Strohm" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada & Scripting Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 05:55:45 -0500 Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America Message-ID: References: Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library1-aux.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Sun, 11 May 2003 06:12:25 -0500 (CDT) NNTP-Posting-Host: !_PHu1k-XUMFH@W (Encoded at Airnews!) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:37177 Date: 2003-05-11T05:55:45-05:00 List-Id: "kat-Zygfryd" <6667@wp.pl> wrote in message news:b9l7n6$68k$1@news.onet.pl... > "John R. Strohm" wrote in message > news:b9kam8$feh@library1.airnews.net... > > > > Oh, really? SECRETARIES were doing Xerox document processor extension > > programming in LISP. No one told them it was a "scripting language" or > that > > what they were doing was "programming", so they were just doing it, to > steal > > the Nike slogan. > > > > Well, I'm not a secretary :P and neither are my worldbuilders. The implication was that, if a TOTAL non-programmer, who has been strongly conditioned to believe that she/he could not program a computer to save her/his life, could successfully program in LISP to accomplish day-to-day tasks, with no prior formal training in programming *OR* LISP, it CAN'T be all that user-unfriendly. Now, I'm sure you have an accurate appraisal of your own abilities, and I have no doubt you are correct when you say that learning to do casual programming in LISP is far beyond your current and potential capabilities. But maybe you underestimate your worldbuilders? I will point out that one of the standard programming assignments in MIT course 6.001 (the freshman EE programming class, required of *ALL* incoming EECS freshmen) is doing, essentially, OBJECT-ORIENTED small-scale Adventure game worldbuilding, in LISP (Scheme dialect, to be precise). If incoming freshment, with typically NO prior experience programming in LISP can do it, maybe your worldbuilders can, too?