From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3d6589e7b2c60444 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-04 06:47:10 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news.xtra.co.nz!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail From: "Alex Gibson" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: employment with ada Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 23:45:33 +1000 Organization: Ihug Limited Message-ID: References: <626e8ae.0305011636.5e899da3@posting.google.com> <4mo7bvc2n70k6eikm3muu2965nbo3m77ov@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p218-tnt3.syd.ihug.com.au X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1052056030 988 203.173.132.218 (4 May 2003 13:47:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 13:47:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36935 Date: 2003-05-04T23:45:33+10:00 List-Id: "DPH" wrote in message news:4mo7bvc2n70k6eikm3muu2965nbo3m77ov@4ax.com... > On 1 May 2003 17:36:30 -0700, crebralfix@angelfire.com (tom) wrote: > > I've just returned from the Software Technology Conference, a large > conference and trade show for DoD types, held annually in Salt Lake > City. What I saw there leads me to say this: > > While Ada is truely a superior language, I believe you should rethink > getting into it on anything above a hobby basis. > > At the conference, one of the 40 minute talks was given by Lockheed > Martin on the Fate of Ada in the Joint Strike Fighter project. > > Starting out by saying that they are all personally Ada zealots, and > strongly believe the langauge to be superior to anything else around, > the company was forced, by business realities, to do their safety > critical software in the Joint Strike Fighter in a safety critical > subset of C. > > The safety critical subset of C is C with 172 restrictions, augmented > by a source code analyzer to look out for problems. > > Why give up on Ada? They actually did a study - this isn't just > someone's personal preference or prejudice. They found: > > 1) No college in this country is teaching Ada. There may be some > qualifiers on that that I don't remember, such as "as a major portion > of their program", or something like that, but in short there isn't a > source of new Ada programmers, nor is there likely to be. > Okay I'm not in the US but the university I'm at still teaches Ada. Mostly to graduate students. http://www.eng.uts.edu.au/CurrentStudents/Postgraduate/postgraduate_subject_descriptions/49212.html http://www.eng.uts.edu.au/CurrentStudents/Postgraduate/postgraduate_subject_descriptions/49234.html http://www.uts.edu.au/div/publications/subjects/49234.html Alex