From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-24 15:15:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: "Chad R. Meiners" Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died (was): 64 bit addressing and OOP Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:09:26 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: References: <9fa75d42.0302260618.7506cba7@posting.google.com> <3E5CF5C6.84822F57@adaworks.com> <8qkczsAcGcn+Ew83@nildram.co.uk> <3EA04A1E.CAFC1FEF@adaworks.com> <9fa75d42.0304221126.7112b7d5@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304230439.55d28e70@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304240503.54dbc5d1@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: arctic.cse.msu.edu X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:62627 comp.object:61873 comp.lang.ada:36507 misc.misc:13663 Date: 2003-04-24T18:09:26-04:00 List-Id: "soft-eng" wrote in message > > Syntax is core to the language. True. >So it should not be > unnecessarily overloaded. Of course--please show how Ada is unnecessarily overloaded. That was your unsupported implication wasn't it? >Libraries can be learned > in specialized variations, as needed. But then you can have competing and inconsistent libraries which is an issue raised before that you failed to address. >But every > programmer needs to know the syntax. A programmer only needs to know enough syntax of a language to be an effective developer. >(Should anyway; > if people are chunking the language syntax so > their programmers can get their heads around it, > I think the syntax is too complex.) You must realize that most languages fail this test since programmers often only learn a subset of the language that they find useful. If you are to take your view seriously, then you will most likely have to declare all languages too complex.