From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.182.98.197 with SMTP id ek5mr37746338obb.30.1415136396462; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:26:36 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.97.34 with SMTP id l31mr796qge.42.1415136396415; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:26:36 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!r10no3903256igi.0!news-out.google.com!u5ni20qab.1!nntp.google.com!i13no1266153qae.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:26:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=50.111.115.132; posting-account=Ies7ywoAAACcdHZMiIRy0M84lcJvfxwg NNTP-Posting-Host: 50.111.115.132 References: <1c386f07-6531-4cdb-b588-47c708f9f357@googlegroups.com> <6d2d562c-8249-47c8-9cc8-e65e57bcacc7@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The older you are the stupider you are? From: brbarkstrom@gmail.com Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:26:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:23032 Date: 2014-11-04T13:26:36-08:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 1:31:29 PM UTC-5, David Botton wrote: > > strategy without pursuing a "perfect" solution.=20 >=20 > Not sure this is a different strategy. >=20 > > 1. Faster development time >=20 > Gnoga and Ada does that for web apps. >=20 > > 2. Lower cost of maintaining the system over lifetimes of one to three= years >=20 > Ada provides that. >=20 > > In this case, it might make sense to choose one of the standard Linux= =20 > > distributions and use their gcc (and related) packages. >=20 > The upcoming Debian Jesse has all that is needed for Gnoga. >=20 > > cgi-bin might work >=20 > Not needed for Gnoga, not sure why anyone would use either. >=20 > > in that case - it has the advantage of being compiled. >=20 > Gnoga is compiled and doesn't have the disadvantages of CGI. >=20 > > The key to making=20 > > this a successful business strategy is probably going to be standardizi= ng > > the development framework and selecting appropriate niche markets for s= tarting out. >=20 > Done, Gnoga and its upcoming market place for pre-canned small business s= oftware, components and connection to consultants and developers. >=20 > > It doesn't make sense to compete directly with AdaCore's competitive > > advantage in life-critical systems. >=20 > AdaCore doesn't work with the Applications space at all. I am also in con= tact (well in theory in contact) with them and plan on discussions to make = the space profitable for them as well as others getting in to it. They are = the main maintainers of the compiler and it would be nice to have them on b= oard and not trying to harm any effort in their misunderstanding of how it = helps them in the small and big picture. >=20 > > Rather, it will be necessary to demonstrate > > Ada advantages in agile development, on-time delivery, service guarante= es, > > and lower maintenance cost (over a one to three-year lifecycle). >=20 > Agreed, the stronger the show there the better. >=20 > David Botton Now, get off the window ledge and enjoy the work. The last six months of= =20 election advertising ought to be enough gloom and doom.