From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,463c5796782db6d8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-10 23:25:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: "Chad R. Meiners" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: [Spark] Arrays of Strings Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:20:15 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: References: <1ec946d1.0304090942.3106b4e4@posting.google.com> <1ec946d1.0304100609.52b0fac0@posting.google.com> <1049986095.779228@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: arctic.cse.msu.edu X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36077 Date: 2003-04-11T02:20:15-04:00 List-Id: "Hyman Rosen" wrote in message news:1049986095.779228@master.nyc.kbcfp.com... > Getting rid of features that are presumed to cause problems is a bit of > hubris that language designers always seem to fall victim to. Ada itself > had a huge problem because the designers thought that function pointers > could be eliminated. Spark gets rid of all pointers, Java gets rid of > templates, and so on and so on. You are missing the point of Spark which is to provide a (super)subset of Ada in which formal proofs about the implementation are possible. Lack of pointers was not a case of hubris but a deliberate and sound decision in Spark's case. Formal validation and verification methodologies require unambiguous specifications and implementations. Spark is intended to satisfy such formal needs. > Then everyone who uses these languages has to figure out how to work > around the lack of the feature they need, essentially duplicating it in > some kludgy way. Meanwhile the language designers have their heads in the > sand and their noses in the air while they pat themselves on the back (:-) > in self-congratulation on how they have created perfection. Of one should know something about a language before one chooses to overgeneralize ;)