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On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 12:18:17 PM UTC-5, Tero Koskinen wrote:

> I think one "problem" Ada community has, is the endless discussions 
> about what should be done.

One week of discussion for a community plan/effort is not what I call endless.   

> I like the "Shut up and hack" mentality of (Open)BSD and how *BSD people 
> do stuff instead of just discussing about it.

The hacking culture brought us exactly where we are; A computer driven society plagued with bugs. 

-All my 'latest generation smartphones' suffered crazy episodes from time to time.
-The tech pipeline at my job is choking on me 3-4 times a day minimum.
-At home, my brand new installed debian box explodes at least once every two weeks.
-When my gnoga driven website behaves weird the problem ALWAYS comes from the client side (JS, C++ and friends) 

What about "Death to hacking! Design then program."?

> For example, check Synth, package manager for *BSDs, written by John 
> Marino using Ada:
> https://github.com/jrmarino/synth

1. Check the diagrams at the end of the readme... it makes up a design.
2. To me he looks more like a "navy seal" of programming than a "baroque proser using a computer".  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marinojr

my two cents.