From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,770ff0ff4d1b076d X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Received: by 10.66.246.164 with SMTP id xx4mr247669pac.45.1366122302497; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.52.69 with SMTP id r5mr167453qeo.7.1366122302056; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Path: bp1ni1009pbd.1!nntp.google.com!fb4no7146072pbd.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:25:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=134.223.116.201; posting-account=mjE6MAoAAADjsB3NIuKgfHO4u-Elh3cb NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.223.116.201 References: <8c61c35f-708e-49ee-b43c-ba53fe7944be@googlegroups.com> <874nf8jk5o.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> <516cf897$0$32117$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interesting embedded Ada news From: Marc C Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:25:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2013-04-16T07:25:01-07:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:38:28 AM UTC-5, Hibou57 (Yannick Duch=EAne) wr= ote: > I don't believe stackoverflow is a so much place. Look at this question = =20 > for an example: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837081/ada-function-vs-procedure > Some people voted to close it, and never come back to revise a decision = =20 > and vote to re-open. The question was actually a real question, but was = =20 > closed as not being a question. That's not only because it's Ada, that an= =20 > issue with stackoverflow in the large. StackOverflow participants do have a bias against questions being asked by = individuals who have obviously not made even the most cursory effort to ans= wer a question on their own. It is a programmer oriented Q&A site, so it is= expected that the programmer asking the question has expended some effort,= and then reached a point where some help is needed to clarify an issue of = legitimate confusion or uncertainty. And yes, the potential answerers deter= mine what they consider "legitimate". (Homework questions are acceptable, = so long as the questioner is upfront about it, and is asking for guidance, = rather than a solution.) As one of those who voted to close that particular question (Marc C), SO gi= ves us only a limited set of reasons for the closure--"Not a real question"= was the closest to "While grammatically a question, the fact that it takes= less than 30 seconds to Google 'Ada function procedure' for an answer mean= s Not Really" that was available. That the question was in regard to Ada had nothing to do with voting to clo= se it. Along with me, two of the other four who voted to close it are well= -established responders to Ada questions on StackOverflow. Unlike some oth= er more general-interest programming forums, anti-Ada bias is rarely seen o= n SO. Just refer to Thomas' link, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagge= d/ada, to see the breadth and response to Ada questions that have been post= ed. > Better a Usenet than something like stackoverflow. The Ada portions of the various sites (Stack Overflow, comp.lang.ada, Reddi= t - http://www.reddit.com/r/ada, Google+, LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.co= m/groups?gid=3D114211) each have their own "personality" and community of u= sers. These complement one another, nothing is gained by dissing other site= s. On more than one occasion I've answered a SO question by recommending th= at the question be brought here to comp.lang.ada, especially if it's of the= "language lawyer" type. I regularly run into individuals for whom StackOverflow, including the ever= -growing collection of Ada questions, is their primary source of programmin= g assistance. StackOverflow and the rest of these sites are valuable resour= ces for both the established and learning Ada community, and enhancing the = ability to find information on them is obviously a good thing to do. Marc A. Criley Moderator, Ada sub-reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/ada) StackOverflow contributor (http://stackoverflow.com/users/38706/marc-c)